George Zimmerman Trial - Day 13 - Morning Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DauTIxQ9xkw
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 13 - Hearing Continued
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMuv2cDl4KE
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 13 - Part 1 (Closing Arguments)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyOuQTKj3E
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 13 - Part 2 (Closing Arguments)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrNemHVvr90
My thoughts:
I have to digest my thoughts regarding the closing.
Showing posts with label George Zimmerman Trial. Show all posts
Showing posts with label George Zimmerman Trial. Show all posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013
What Would My Verdict Be In The George Zimmerman Trial? July 11, 2013
Both sides have rested in the George Zimmerman Trial, and I have listened to all the witnesses, questioned by both the State and the Defense. Included in all, I listened to George Zimmerman's statements, stress voice analysis, written statements and reenactments.
Although the public was privy to seeing parts of the animation created by the Defense, of which, is not in evidence, but can be used in closing and the "oops" moment when the State brought in the dummy, so State Attorney Guy can get on top of the dummy, leaving a very visual moment for the jurors to picture Trayvon on top of George.
As when O'Mara had his moment with the dummy, he also illustrated being on top of the dummy again showing the jurors Trayvon on top of George.
Sadly the jurors were not able to see Trayvon's cellphone texts with his back and forth conversations regarding a fight his lost in the first round, but won the second and third round and basically wanted more, he wanted to make this person bleed. Nor where they able to see the texts about selling guns or wanting to buy a gun when he gets to Sanford.
The Defense did not bring in that Trayvon had marijuana in his system, and not sure why they didn't, but I figure it was to be respectful to the parents.
The only part that I can consider regarding Trayvon is that he played football. Football players are trained to be able to defend themselves, stop and tackle another player. They go through daily routine work-outs on the football field pushing a heavy dummy on a track to build up their stamina.
I will say this though, should this be a hung jury for whatever reason, all that wasn't in evidence, is now public information, and has been made available for everyone to read or watch.
Now, where do I stand with my verdict regarding George Zimmerman. Since the decision has to be made solely on the George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin confrontation and whether George shot Trayvon in self-defense. In order for me to do this, the call has now ended with the dispatcher, and George started to head down the walkway in that open area behind the townhouses looking for an address to give the police when they call him when they arrive in the community.
In the meantime, while George is starting to go back, Trayvon is still on his phone with Rachael Jeantel telling her that George is getting closer, and it is known that George didn't see Trayvon just before he ended his call with the dispatcher, as George was concerned about giving his address to the dispatcher.
Now Trayvon, according to the State and Defense, was about 348 feet (116 yards) from the apartment where he was staying with his father and girlfriend. All that Trayvon had to do was stay right where he was and let George continue back to his vehicle, and at that point, George would have waited for the police to arrive, and Trayvon could have slipped into father's girlfriend's apartment, close the door, and it would have been a "moot" situation, because by that point, no one knew where Trayvon was any longer.
However, that didn't happen. Trayvon came out from hiding and came upon George, and while Trayvon was still on the phone with Rachael, asked George "why was he following him or what is your problem?" It is known that one voice was deep and had an angry tone, according to one of the witnesses, and the other voice was soft tone with a higher pitch,
As soon as George responds to Trayvon, although NOT heard by Rachael, if I recall correctly, Rachael then hears a bump. Now we know Rachael softened the word to "bump" since she used "punch" earlier in her deposition and I believe, but not 100% sure used it on the stand.
It is very obvious based on George's face and nose, based on Rachael saying she heard a bump, Trayvon punched George in the face and knocked him down on the ground.
Rachael claims she heard "wet grass", but we all know she actually meant that she could hear perhaps shoes or snickers sliding on the wet grass. Now Rachael stated she also heard "get off, get off", and I'm not sure she did, but if she did, they that would be George telling Trayvon to get off of him, because Trayvon is on top of George.
George had stated just as Trayvon confronted George, George put his hand in his pocket looking for his cellphone, but the phone was in another pocket. Remember, George was telling the dispatcher that Trayvon had his hand in his waist band at some point.
Of course we all know about the end with the Skittles & Arizona can of juice, but you can't put them in when deciding because at the moment, George may have thought Trayvon was packing a gun.
We also know George had a gun and could have taken out his gun and held Trayvon there until the cops arrived, However, there was no reason in those few seconds before the punch to hold Trayvon at gun point.
Once Trayvon punched George in the face, Trayvon attacked George, threw the first punch and now George was placed in a position to fight back. However, George is not a fighter, but Trayvon is, but again, I can't consider Trayvon's other fights.
With George on the bottom, and no injuries at all to Trayvon's face by scratches from George, or punches to Trayvon's face by George, it appears that all George was trying to do, IF, he did anything at all was protect his face from any further blows to his face, or perhaps try and protect his head from being pounded into the concrete, all by the abrasions on the back of George's head.
It is very clear to me that it was George screaming for help, and with the fear in George's voice, with people actually coming outside for seconds, George knew no one was going to help him. Once the shifting of hands and body during the one sided fight, George's gun became exposed. Once the gun was in view, it was a split-second decision that George took the gun out and shot Trayvon.
As an "in-home" juror, taking out that Trayvon was a 17 year old black male, and George a Hispanic adult male, there was a confrontation, started by one individual with the punch to the another individual, and in the end, Trayvon died.
My verdict would be "not guilty."
Although the public was privy to seeing parts of the animation created by the Defense, of which, is not in evidence, but can be used in closing and the "oops" moment when the State brought in the dummy, so State Attorney Guy can get on top of the dummy, leaving a very visual moment for the jurors to picture Trayvon on top of George.
As when O'Mara had his moment with the dummy, he also illustrated being on top of the dummy again showing the jurors Trayvon on top of George.
Sadly the jurors were not able to see Trayvon's cellphone texts with his back and forth conversations regarding a fight his lost in the first round, but won the second and third round and basically wanted more, he wanted to make this person bleed. Nor where they able to see the texts about selling guns or wanting to buy a gun when he gets to Sanford.
The Defense did not bring in that Trayvon had marijuana in his system, and not sure why they didn't, but I figure it was to be respectful to the parents.
The only part that I can consider regarding Trayvon is that he played football. Football players are trained to be able to defend themselves, stop and tackle another player. They go through daily routine work-outs on the football field pushing a heavy dummy on a track to build up their stamina.
I will say this though, should this be a hung jury for whatever reason, all that wasn't in evidence, is now public information, and has been made available for everyone to read or watch.
Now, where do I stand with my verdict regarding George Zimmerman. Since the decision has to be made solely on the George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin confrontation and whether George shot Trayvon in self-defense. In order for me to do this, the call has now ended with the dispatcher, and George started to head down the walkway in that open area behind the townhouses looking for an address to give the police when they call him when they arrive in the community.
In the meantime, while George is starting to go back, Trayvon is still on his phone with Rachael Jeantel telling her that George is getting closer, and it is known that George didn't see Trayvon just before he ended his call with the dispatcher, as George was concerned about giving his address to the dispatcher.
Now Trayvon, according to the State and Defense, was about 348 feet (116 yards) from the apartment where he was staying with his father and girlfriend. All that Trayvon had to do was stay right where he was and let George continue back to his vehicle, and at that point, George would have waited for the police to arrive, and Trayvon could have slipped into father's girlfriend's apartment, close the door, and it would have been a "moot" situation, because by that point, no one knew where Trayvon was any longer.
However, that didn't happen. Trayvon came out from hiding and came upon George, and while Trayvon was still on the phone with Rachael, asked George "why was he following him or what is your problem?" It is known that one voice was deep and had an angry tone, according to one of the witnesses, and the other voice was soft tone with a higher pitch,
As soon as George responds to Trayvon, although NOT heard by Rachael, if I recall correctly, Rachael then hears a bump. Now we know Rachael softened the word to "bump" since she used "punch" earlier in her deposition and I believe, but not 100% sure used it on the stand.
It is very obvious based on George's face and nose, based on Rachael saying she heard a bump, Trayvon punched George in the face and knocked him down on the ground.
Rachael claims she heard "wet grass", but we all know she actually meant that she could hear perhaps shoes or snickers sliding on the wet grass. Now Rachael stated she also heard "get off, get off", and I'm not sure she did, but if she did, they that would be George telling Trayvon to get off of him, because Trayvon is on top of George.
George had stated just as Trayvon confronted George, George put his hand in his pocket looking for his cellphone, but the phone was in another pocket. Remember, George was telling the dispatcher that Trayvon had his hand in his waist band at some point.
Of course we all know about the end with the Skittles & Arizona can of juice, but you can't put them in when deciding because at the moment, George may have thought Trayvon was packing a gun.
We also know George had a gun and could have taken out his gun and held Trayvon there until the cops arrived, However, there was no reason in those few seconds before the punch to hold Trayvon at gun point.
Once Trayvon punched George in the face, Trayvon attacked George, threw the first punch and now George was placed in a position to fight back. However, George is not a fighter, but Trayvon is, but again, I can't consider Trayvon's other fights.
With George on the bottom, and no injuries at all to Trayvon's face by scratches from George, or punches to Trayvon's face by George, it appears that all George was trying to do, IF, he did anything at all was protect his face from any further blows to his face, or perhaps try and protect his head from being pounded into the concrete, all by the abrasions on the back of George's head.
It is very clear to me that it was George screaming for help, and with the fear in George's voice, with people actually coming outside for seconds, George knew no one was going to help him. Once the shifting of hands and body during the one sided fight, George's gun became exposed. Once the gun was in view, it was a split-second decision that George took the gun out and shot Trayvon.
As an "in-home" juror, taking out that Trayvon was a 17 year old black male, and George a Hispanic adult male, there was a confrontation, started by one individual with the punch to the another individual, and in the end, Trayvon died.
My verdict would be "not guilty."
Wednesday, July 10, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 10, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwZ0bmp5CW8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdidPfoao0
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SbfhaI336I
George Zimmerman Trial - Will Zimmerman testify?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms7QzA-sGYQ
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19rZRN4Lbsc
Mark O'Mara's Press Conference
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-21-mark-omara-news-conference/v6Jbd/
My thoughts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwZ0bmp5CW8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdidPfoao0
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SbfhaI336I
George Zimmerman Trial - Will Zimmerman testify?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms7QzA-sGYQ
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 12 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19rZRN4Lbsc
Mark O'Mara's Press Conference
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-21-mark-omara-news-conference/v6Jbd/
My thoughts:
Tuesday, July 9, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 9, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLgArPv0j_Y
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjVItB8S0Oo
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgcpjq8320
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TIgJvAc0jI
Court Continued With Hearing After Jurors Were Dismissed For The Day
Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-1/v6B4T/
Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-2/v6CRd/
Part 3
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-3/v6CSH/
Lights Out In The Courtroom
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/lights-turn-off-in-zimmerman-trial-courtroom-day/v6CrR/
Part 4
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-4/v6Cx3/
Part 5
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-5/v6Cyr/
Part 6
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-6/v6Cy4/
Part 7
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-7/v6CzY/
Part 8
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-8/v6C9P/
Court wraps up for the night.
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/court-finally-wraps-for-day-in-zimmerman-trial/v6C6b/
My thoughts:
This was an exhausting day with court ending at 10:00 PM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLgArPv0j_Y
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjVItB8S0Oo
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgcpjq8320
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 11 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TIgJvAc0jI
Court Continued With Hearing After Jurors Were Dismissed For The Day
Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-1/v6B4T/
Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-2/v6CRd/
Part 3
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-3/v6CSH/
Lights Out In The Courtroom
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/lights-turn-off-in-zimmerman-trial-courtroom-day/v6CrR/
Part 4
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-4/v6Cx3/
Part 5
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-5/v6Cyr/
Part 6
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-6/v6Cy4/
Part 7
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-7/v6CzY/
Part 8
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-20-zimmerman-trial-hearing-part-8/v6C9P/
Court wraps up for the night.
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/court-finally-wraps-for-day-in-zimmerman-trial/v6C6b/
My thoughts:
This was an exhausting day with court ending at 10:00 PM.
George Zimmerman Trial - July 8, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_OY_ldIMk
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4BY5Rl3vk
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 3 (Tracey Martin & SPD Bill Lee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQTuxhWtwRY
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 1 (Richardson Hearing Toxicology)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjRvMGRw3Q
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 2 (Richardson Hearing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamFcT15IW8
My thoughts:
I was surprised to see Tracey Martin on the Defense witness list and not on the State's list. Watching as an "in-home" juror, I am sure the jurors seated were also wondering the same thing. The state could have called Mr. Martin and let him speak about what he stated the day he heard the 911 call, however, leaving him off the stand left many questions unanswered.
With two seasoned police investigators testifying what they heard Mr. Martin stated, only leaves the door open for the jurors to believe or not believe Mr. Martin. My heart did go out for Mr. Martin as you can see the pain of losing his son is still at the surface of his life.
It really bothered me to learn that the 911 call was played in a room, officiated my the mayor, without the presence of the Chief of Police or any Law Enforcement officials present. The tape should have been played individually to each family member rather than have a room full of family listening to the tape.
Attorney Crump, who seems to be the leader of the pack, hopefully will be a defense witness as I personally felt, based on just a little bit that I have seen, really blew up so much of this case, when it wasn't necessary.
Adam Pollack, described George Zimmerman's capability at the MMA gym indicating that basically George did not have the capability of punching a \punching bag. George was at the gym to do exercise and to lose weight, of which, George did lose a lot of weight before the incident.
The jurors will learn on Tuesday that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system. The mothers on the jurors will be asking themselves "where did a 17 year old get marijuana?" I am also sure the mothers on the jurors are even asking how Trayvon got two tattoos, since he is under age to get a tattoo. Although, I am not sure if a parent can give permission for an under-age child to get a tattoo.
The most heart-felt testimony on Monday was from John Donnelly. John helped explain to the jurors the scream of fear and how it would sound even coming from a 250 pound male, whose cry would even sound like a woman. John and his wife, helped support George and his wife with money, food and clothing for George, especially after George put on so much weight.
Of course, this cynical world will look at it as a motivate of some form or another, however, I didn't see it that way. Someone has to help George and his family, because his life stopped. Just like with the Martin family, their lives stopped when Trayvon died. People rallied around to support them financially as they fight for Justice for Trayvon, and a select few rallied around Justice for George.
Looking forward to Tuesday ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_OY_ldIMk
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4BY5Rl3vk
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 3 (Tracey Martin & SPD Bill Lee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQTuxhWtwRY
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 1 (Richardson Hearing Toxicology)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjRvMGRw3Q
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 10 - Part 2 (Richardson Hearing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamFcT15IW8
My thoughts:
I was surprised to see Tracey Martin on the Defense witness list and not on the State's list. Watching as an "in-home" juror, I am sure the jurors seated were also wondering the same thing. The state could have called Mr. Martin and let him speak about what he stated the day he heard the 911 call, however, leaving him off the stand left many questions unanswered.
With two seasoned police investigators testifying what they heard Mr. Martin stated, only leaves the door open for the jurors to believe or not believe Mr. Martin. My heart did go out for Mr. Martin as you can see the pain of losing his son is still at the surface of his life.
It really bothered me to learn that the 911 call was played in a room, officiated my the mayor, without the presence of the Chief of Police or any Law Enforcement officials present. The tape should have been played individually to each family member rather than have a room full of family listening to the tape.
Attorney Crump, who seems to be the leader of the pack, hopefully will be a defense witness as I personally felt, based on just a little bit that I have seen, really blew up so much of this case, when it wasn't necessary.
Adam Pollack, described George Zimmerman's capability at the MMA gym indicating that basically George did not have the capability of punching a \punching bag. George was at the gym to do exercise and to lose weight, of which, George did lose a lot of weight before the incident.
The jurors will learn on Tuesday that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system. The mothers on the jurors will be asking themselves "where did a 17 year old get marijuana?" I am also sure the mothers on the jurors are even asking how Trayvon got two tattoos, since he is under age to get a tattoo. Although, I am not sure if a parent can give permission for an under-age child to get a tattoo.
The most heart-felt testimony on Monday was from John Donnelly. John helped explain to the jurors the scream of fear and how it would sound even coming from a 250 pound male, whose cry would even sound like a woman. John and his wife, helped support George and his wife with money, food and clothing for George, especially after George put on so much weight.
Of course, this cynical world will look at it as a motivate of some form or another, however, I didn't see it that way. Someone has to help George and his family, because his life stopped. Just like with the Martin family, their lives stopped when Trayvon died. People rallied around to support them financially as they fight for Justice for Trayvon, and a select few rallied around Justice for George.
Looking forward to Tuesday ....
Friday, July 5, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 5, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 1 (Sybrina Fulton)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN_16PWph94
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 2 (Medical Examiner - Trayvon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0Tlyswcm4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgZY-1xs70
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_Zm64pWLM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 5 (Motion for Acquittal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btd_kNw72TM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 6 (George's Mother and Uncle Witnesses)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz9NlV8HMs
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara holds news conference
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-18-defense-attorney-mark-omara-holds-news/v5yRd/
My thoughts:
Today was a day that actually gave me a headache. Trayvon's mother was called by the State, and then the State went directly to a sidebar, leaving Sybrina "On Display" for at least 7 minutes, if not longer. Now why the hell the State did this, I will never know.
Sybrina stated the screaming on the 911 call was Trayvon, however, neither the State or Defense asked Sybrina if she ever heard her son scream in fear.
Jahvaris Fulton, Trayvon's half brother stated that the scream was Trayvon, although he never heard his half-brother scream in that manner. Jahvairs has stated last year that the scream was not Trayvon's/
Dr. Shiping Bao, the Medical Examiner that did the autopsy on Trayvon. In a nutshell, this doctor doesn't even recall the case, however, he stated no one knows Trayvon better than I do, except he can't remember anything about the case.
He had written questions that he thought would be asked of him and then wrote the answers to those questions to have then readily available.
Within the last 3 weeks, Dr. Bao changed his mind about the time it took Trayvon to die once he got shot in the heart. Originally Dr. Bao stated Trayvon would probably have died within one to two minutes, and today he said that it was from one to ten minutes. This new information was based on an autopsy of someone else, where people were right there when 911 was called etc., etc. However, people were right there within seconds after Trayvon was shot, as well as the first responder and they could not do CPR on Trayvon as he was deceased. Also Dr. Bao indicated that Trayvon could have moved within that time frame or couldn't have moved.
The toughest part of his testimony is when he wouldn't pinpoint the time that the Assistant Medical Examiner arrived on the scene to take pictures and prepare Trayvon to be moved to the morgue. It turns out that it took the Medical Examiner's office nearly 3 hours to get to Trayvon. Remember it was raining that night, and Trayvon laid on the grass covered in a tarp, nothing being protected, including his hands for later testing.
So many things that were important in this case, especially nail clipping, pictures of the palms of Trayvon's, seem to not be very important.
Getting back to the notes, once the Defense realized that Dr. Bao's was reading for his notes, the doctor had to turn over his notes to the State and Defense and he didn't want to do it. During a recess, both sides read the notes, and once they returned to the courtroom, both sides went to a sidebar. At one point during the side bar, you could see Judge Nelson raise her right hand and Bernie (State) raised his right hand and appeared he was swearing to the Judge about something.
Perhaps the swearing had to do with the information Dr. Bao's talked about with regards to changing the time that it took Trayvon to die, that Trayvon could move, and the fact that the marijuana in Trayvon's system may or may not have added to what happened that evening.
George Zimmerman's mother "Gladys Zimmerman" was called by the Defense, and she verified that the screams on the 911 tape was her son. Although she stated, she had never heard him scream that way before, but she knew it was her son. Gladys is a very lovely woman, not filled with any attitude, but willing to do what she can for her son.
The very best witness the entire time this trial started is "Jorge Mesa." Jorge is the brother to Gladys and George Zimmerman's uncle. Jorge is in law enforcement, but was a witness for his nephew just as his uncle.
Jorge explained to the jury that he was sitting at his computer sometime in March 2012, and behind him, his wife was watching TV and then the 911 call was played and Jorge heard the screaming. Jorge stated he knew this was George right away and felt in directly into his heart. He asked his wife what she was watching and Jorge told him this is George screaming.
It was the most riveting moment of the entire trial. You felt the passion and emotion in the tone of his voice. Jorge at that time had decided to distance himself from the case because of his position in law enforcement.
The jury was left with Jorge Mesa's testimony and they were released for the weekend. Court starts up again on Monday, July 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN_16PWph94
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 2 (Medical Examiner - Trayvon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0Tlyswcm4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgZY-1xs70
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_Zm64pWLM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 5 (Motion for Acquittal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btd_kNw72TM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 9 - Part 6 (George's Mother and Uncle Witnesses)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz9NlV8HMs
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara holds news conference
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/day-18-defense-attorney-mark-omara-holds-news/v5yRd/
My thoughts:
Today was a day that actually gave me a headache. Trayvon's mother was called by the State, and then the State went directly to a sidebar, leaving Sybrina "On Display" for at least 7 minutes, if not longer. Now why the hell the State did this, I will never know.
Sybrina stated the screaming on the 911 call was Trayvon, however, neither the State or Defense asked Sybrina if she ever heard her son scream in fear.
Jahvaris Fulton, Trayvon's half brother stated that the scream was Trayvon, although he never heard his half-brother scream in that manner. Jahvairs has stated last year that the scream was not Trayvon's/
Dr. Shiping Bao, the Medical Examiner that did the autopsy on Trayvon. In a nutshell, this doctor doesn't even recall the case, however, he stated no one knows Trayvon better than I do, except he can't remember anything about the case.
He had written questions that he thought would be asked of him and then wrote the answers to those questions to have then readily available.
Within the last 3 weeks, Dr. Bao changed his mind about the time it took Trayvon to die once he got shot in the heart. Originally Dr. Bao stated Trayvon would probably have died within one to two minutes, and today he said that it was from one to ten minutes. This new information was based on an autopsy of someone else, where people were right there when 911 was called etc., etc. However, people were right there within seconds after Trayvon was shot, as well as the first responder and they could not do CPR on Trayvon as he was deceased. Also Dr. Bao indicated that Trayvon could have moved within that time frame or couldn't have moved.
The toughest part of his testimony is when he wouldn't pinpoint the time that the Assistant Medical Examiner arrived on the scene to take pictures and prepare Trayvon to be moved to the morgue. It turns out that it took the Medical Examiner's office nearly 3 hours to get to Trayvon. Remember it was raining that night, and Trayvon laid on the grass covered in a tarp, nothing being protected, including his hands for later testing.
So many things that were important in this case, especially nail clipping, pictures of the palms of Trayvon's, seem to not be very important.
Getting back to the notes, once the Defense realized that Dr. Bao's was reading for his notes, the doctor had to turn over his notes to the State and Defense and he didn't want to do it. During a recess, both sides read the notes, and once they returned to the courtroom, both sides went to a sidebar. At one point during the side bar, you could see Judge Nelson raise her right hand and Bernie (State) raised his right hand and appeared he was swearing to the Judge about something.
Perhaps the swearing had to do with the information Dr. Bao's talked about with regards to changing the time that it took Trayvon to die, that Trayvon could move, and the fact that the marijuana in Trayvon's system may or may not have added to what happened that evening.
George Zimmerman's mother "Gladys Zimmerman" was called by the Defense, and she verified that the screams on the 911 tape was her son. Although she stated, she had never heard him scream that way before, but she knew it was her son. Gladys is a very lovely woman, not filled with any attitude, but willing to do what she can for her son.
The very best witness the entire time this trial started is "Jorge Mesa." Jorge is the brother to Gladys and George Zimmerman's uncle. Jorge is in law enforcement, but was a witness for his nephew just as his uncle.
Jorge explained to the jury that he was sitting at his computer sometime in March 2012, and behind him, his wife was watching TV and then the 911 call was played and Jorge heard the screaming. Jorge stated he knew this was George right away and felt in directly into his heart. He asked his wife what she was watching and Jorge told him this is George screaming.
It was the most riveting moment of the entire trial. You felt the passion and emotion in the tone of his voice. Jorge at that time had decided to distance himself from the case because of his position in law enforcement.
The jury was left with Jorge Mesa's testimony and they were released for the weekend. Court starts up again on Monday, July 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM EDT
Wednesday, July 3, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 3, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Morning Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEpOe9kiAzA
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4a006Yo2Jo
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Issues with Skype
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VS1tnJSGMg
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1zhmq7BGJc
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq006zh3e08
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcaKrIA41DE
My thoughts:
State was suppose to finish up today, however, it didn't happen. Court will resume on Friday, July 5, 2013.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEpOe9kiAzA
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4a006Yo2Jo
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Issues with Skype
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VS1tnJSGMg
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1zhmq7BGJc
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq006zh3e08
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 8 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcaKrIA41DE
My thoughts:
State was suppose to finish up today, however, it didn't happen. Court will resume on Friday, July 5, 2013.
Tuesday, July 2, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 2, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erVzhz-OsYc
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISVMogzRw6A
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqpnDdDw-3Y
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef0hmBSfuE
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - School Records Proffer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ijakvFDso
My thoughts:
Let see, what happened in court today. Chris Serino was back on the stand, and he is one odd cop. I just got the feeling a lot of the things he stated, he wish he didn't do what he did back then. I actually saw him look over at George after stating something, and he just look sorry.
The State presented Kristin Bentsin an expert in fingerprints. After going through all of her qualifications, she was accepted as an expert in fingerprinting. In the end, there were no fingerprints on the gun. OK then, that was a great witness.
The State presented the Hannity interview with George Zimmerman, July 18, 2012, shortly after George was arrested the second time and out on bond up to the present. George's statement with Hannity was pretty much on the mark except for either about NOT knowing about "Stand Your Ground" or NOT knowing the full law regarding "Stand Your Ground."
You can know about "Stand Your Ground" as that is all that I know about it, but I don't know the Law about "Stand Your Ground."
There was one statement George Zimmerman made during the Hannity interview. I'm not 100% sure about what I wrote down regarding what he stated, but it sounded like George has no regret getting out of his car and that it was God's plan.
I can't bear to listen to another recording of the same story of what happened, just to find what George stated.
There was lots of discussion on this subject, and George's college records, maybe even his under-ware drawer will be investigated to determine how much did George know about "Stand Your Ground". Especially since the State feels that George wanted to do a ride along with the cops, and perhaps a "wannabe" cop.
Heck most boys at one time or another would love to ride along with the cops, and who doesn't want to be in uniform of any kind.
Then the medical examiner took the stand, Valerio Rao. Now she is NOT the medical examiner that did the autopsy on Trayvon Martin. Nope, she did the examination of George Zimmerman head through copies of pictures sent to her computer, of which, she printed out. Oh wait, she had loads of pictures of George Zimmerman, but that would take too much time, so she only printed a few of them. Need I go on with that one?
Rao didn't like the word George Zimmerman used to tell the cops what happened to his head. George stated his head was being slammed into the concrete. Now Rao felt that was not the right word as "slam" means really forceful. Well I'll be, George should have selected another word. Should it have been "smashed", but that means to smash something perhaps until it slips open or "smashed" as in drunk.
Actually I don't think anyone really came up with the right word that George Zimmerman should of used since his head was hitting the concrete by another person doing it.
Then the Defense used the word protrusion, well that word the expert ME didn't understand. Maybe O'Mara should have used "bump" on the side of George's nose, but then again Rachael Jentel used bump when she felt Trayvon got punched, oops. bumped in the nose.
Trayvon had no bruises, abrasions, protusions, scalp, skull or any injury to his head, face etc. He suffered a one single gunshot to his chest.
Back and forth Rao corrected O'Maria for using bruises when it should be abrasions. Some abrasions were brusing, nose swollen, and then not swollen. The word crown for top of head, skull when it should be scalp.
Rao never saw original photos, and gave her expert advise by using copies, of copies of pictures. In the end, George Zimmerman had insignificant injuries to his face, head etc., and were not life threatening to George Zimmerman.
Well, the way I see it, George Zimmerman was in fear of having his head damaged from what he felt was "slamming of his head into concrete." He felt in fear of his life, although, according to Chris Serino, and Singleton, since his injuries were so "insignificant", I guess they felt he would have survived the attack.
The State also introduced Mark Osterman. Mark is a very good friend of George Zimmerman, and he wrote a book titled: "Defending our Friend; the Most Hated Man in America."
Mark wrote this book from memory, no notes or recordings were used to write the book, just Mark's memory of what George Zimmerman stated. I guess the biggest issue was the wording: "his gun, the gun" or something like that. The State pulled this out and tried to use it as though George Zimmerman stated this directly. However, it is a good friend of George that wrote a book only going on his memory.
So far, IMO, 2nd degree murder still has NOT been proven, The state has to prove ill-will, hatred, spite, or evil intent.
Until Wednesday ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erVzhz-OsYc
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISVMogzRw6A
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqpnDdDw-3Y
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef0hmBSfuE
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 7 - School Records Proffer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ijakvFDso
My thoughts:
Let see, what happened in court today. Chris Serino was back on the stand, and he is one odd cop. I just got the feeling a lot of the things he stated, he wish he didn't do what he did back then. I actually saw him look over at George after stating something, and he just look sorry.
The State presented Kristin Bentsin an expert in fingerprints. After going through all of her qualifications, she was accepted as an expert in fingerprinting. In the end, there were no fingerprints on the gun. OK then, that was a great witness.
The State presented the Hannity interview with George Zimmerman, July 18, 2012, shortly after George was arrested the second time and out on bond up to the present. George's statement with Hannity was pretty much on the mark except for either about NOT knowing about "Stand Your Ground" or NOT knowing the full law regarding "Stand Your Ground."
You can know about "Stand Your Ground" as that is all that I know about it, but I don't know the Law about "Stand Your Ground."
There was one statement George Zimmerman made during the Hannity interview. I'm not 100% sure about what I wrote down regarding what he stated, but it sounded like George has no regret getting out of his car and that it was God's plan.
I can't bear to listen to another recording of the same story of what happened, just to find what George stated.
There was lots of discussion on this subject, and George's college records, maybe even his under-ware drawer will be investigated to determine how much did George know about "Stand Your Ground". Especially since the State feels that George wanted to do a ride along with the cops, and perhaps a "wannabe" cop.
Heck most boys at one time or another would love to ride along with the cops, and who doesn't want to be in uniform of any kind.
Then the medical examiner took the stand, Valerio Rao. Now she is NOT the medical examiner that did the autopsy on Trayvon Martin. Nope, she did the examination of George Zimmerman head through copies of pictures sent to her computer, of which, she printed out. Oh wait, she had loads of pictures of George Zimmerman, but that would take too much time, so she only printed a few of them. Need I go on with that one?
Rao didn't like the word George Zimmerman used to tell the cops what happened to his head. George stated his head was being slammed into the concrete. Now Rao felt that was not the right word as "slam" means really forceful. Well I'll be, George should have selected another word. Should it have been "smashed", but that means to smash something perhaps until it slips open or "smashed" as in drunk.
Actually I don't think anyone really came up with the right word that George Zimmerman should of used since his head was hitting the concrete by another person doing it.
Then the Defense used the word protrusion, well that word the expert ME didn't understand. Maybe O'Mara should have used "bump" on the side of George's nose, but then again Rachael Jentel used bump when she felt Trayvon got punched, oops. bumped in the nose.
Trayvon had no bruises, abrasions, protusions, scalp, skull or any injury to his head, face etc. He suffered a one single gunshot to his chest.
Back and forth Rao corrected O'Maria for using bruises when it should be abrasions. Some abrasions were brusing, nose swollen, and then not swollen. The word crown for top of head, skull when it should be scalp.
Rao never saw original photos, and gave her expert advise by using copies, of copies of pictures. In the end, George Zimmerman had insignificant injuries to his face, head etc., and were not life threatening to George Zimmerman.
Well, the way I see it, George Zimmerman was in fear of having his head damaged from what he felt was "slamming of his head into concrete." He felt in fear of his life, although, according to Chris Serino, and Singleton, since his injuries were so "insignificant", I guess they felt he would have survived the attack.
The State also introduced Mark Osterman. Mark is a very good friend of George Zimmerman, and he wrote a book titled: "Defending our Friend; the Most Hated Man in America."
Mark wrote this book from memory, no notes or recordings were used to write the book, just Mark's memory of what George Zimmerman stated. I guess the biggest issue was the wording: "his gun, the gun" or something like that. The State pulled this out and tried to use it as though George Zimmerman stated this directly. However, it is a good friend of George that wrote a book only going on his memory.
So far, IMO, 2nd degree murder still has NOT been proven, The state has to prove ill-will, hatred, spite, or evil intent.
Until Wednesday ......
Monday, July 1, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - July 1, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTlI7CJhJQ
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2pny38Cj8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 3 (Interrogation Tapes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r2TUf_Efx4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edd993UC25w
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv3hhnNnYs
My thoughts:
The only thing I have to say concerning today is, George Zimmerman's written statement, recorded interview with Singleton the evening/earlier morning after the incident, the reenactment of the incident mid afternoon day after the incident, the recorded interview again with Singleton/Serino and voice stress analysis and the Singleton/Serino recorded interview on the 29th of February 2012, all match. It's Serino that is bringing in the racial profiling and basically doesn't believe George Zimmerman's statement.
Serino, how the hell was George suppose to know that Trayvon was holding his Ice Tea, when George stated Trayvon's hand was in his waistband? You came to a conclusion because you know what Trayvon had. Trust me Serino, if Trayvon was doing something suspicious and you (Serino) spotted Trayvon with his hand in his waistband, you would have your gun out instantly on Trayvon.
Serino is saying George Zimmerman sounded frustration on the non emergency call. I didn't hear that at all unless Serino is picking on what George stated about "fucking punks" and "they always get away."
It's so easy for the cops to say to George, you could have confronted him and tell him who you are, or this, or that. I would have stopped talking to the police.
Listening to Part 5 with Serino being concerned because George mentioned he had class the next day when Serino mentions the re-creation, however, George stated he could cancel class. Who the hell thinks clearly when something like this happens? Do they go to school, or stay home in a chair? So they go back to work to continue to support themselves, or just sit in a chair?
Serino focused on one discrepancy and it had to do with George fell when he was only hit once. Why would that be so hard to believe? Just because George was 40 pounds or so heavier than Trayvon, that doesn't mean that George would not fall when hit.
Serino thought it was odd that George didn't know the names of the street in the area. Really? So many times I can't remember the cross street to my street, especially since we use "numbers" for streets and avenues, etc. etc. Cross street is a number with street. My street is a number with avenue. You could be on say 14th Street off of 14th Avenue. Dives me crazy.
Part 5, IMO, is the BEST part of the trial day with O'Mara's cross examination of Chris Serino. At the end of the day, O'Mara got Chris Serino state to: "he felt George Zimmerman was telling the truth."
Serino basically, based on all the evidence that he had while interviewing George from other witnesses, it appeared more to be "self-defense". So how the hell did it get to "Second Degree Murder?"
If anyone looks guilty in this trial, it is Chris Serino, the detective in charge of the case. The reason I am saying he looks guilty because Serino basically didn't believe George. I believe Chris Serino is no longer a detective, and is now a cop working the Midnight shift.
George Zimmerman did NOT seek an attorney and willingly spoke to the police. I guess if George did get an attorney, he would still be in the same position he is in now.
BIG shout-out to all the court reporters - You all do an outstanding job in recording all the questions and answers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTlI7CJhJQ
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2pny38Cj8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 3 (Interrogation Tapes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r2TUf_Efx4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edd993UC25w
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 6 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv3hhnNnYs
My thoughts:
The only thing I have to say concerning today is, George Zimmerman's written statement, recorded interview with Singleton the evening/earlier morning after the incident, the reenactment of the incident mid afternoon day after the incident, the recorded interview again with Singleton/Serino and voice stress analysis and the Singleton/Serino recorded interview on the 29th of February 2012, all match. It's Serino that is bringing in the racial profiling and basically doesn't believe George Zimmerman's statement.
Serino, how the hell was George suppose to know that Trayvon was holding his Ice Tea, when George stated Trayvon's hand was in his waistband? You came to a conclusion because you know what Trayvon had. Trust me Serino, if Trayvon was doing something suspicious and you (Serino) spotted Trayvon with his hand in his waistband, you would have your gun out instantly on Trayvon.
Serino is saying George Zimmerman sounded frustration on the non emergency call. I didn't hear that at all unless Serino is picking on what George stated about "fucking punks" and "they always get away."
It's so easy for the cops to say to George, you could have confronted him and tell him who you are, or this, or that. I would have stopped talking to the police.
Listening to Part 5 with Serino being concerned because George mentioned he had class the next day when Serino mentions the re-creation, however, George stated he could cancel class. Who the hell thinks clearly when something like this happens? Do they go to school, or stay home in a chair? So they go back to work to continue to support themselves, or just sit in a chair?
Serino focused on one discrepancy and it had to do with George fell when he was only hit once. Why would that be so hard to believe? Just because George was 40 pounds or so heavier than Trayvon, that doesn't mean that George would not fall when hit.
Serino thought it was odd that George didn't know the names of the street in the area. Really? So many times I can't remember the cross street to my street, especially since we use "numbers" for streets and avenues, etc. etc. Cross street is a number with street. My street is a number with avenue. You could be on say 14th Street off of 14th Avenue. Dives me crazy.
Part 5, IMO, is the BEST part of the trial day with O'Mara's cross examination of Chris Serino. At the end of the day, O'Mara got Chris Serino state to: "he felt George Zimmerman was telling the truth."
Serino basically, based on all the evidence that he had while interviewing George from other witnesses, it appeared more to be "self-defense". So how the hell did it get to "Second Degree Murder?"
If anyone looks guilty in this trial, it is Chris Serino, the detective in charge of the case. The reason I am saying he looks guilty because Serino basically didn't believe George. I believe Chris Serino is no longer a detective, and is now a cop working the Midnight shift.
George Zimmerman did NOT seek an attorney and willingly spoke to the police. I guess if George did get an attorney, he would still be in the same position he is in now.
BIG shout-out to all the court reporters - You all do an outstanding job in recording all the questions and answers.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - June 26, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWMzMxxR2L8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3FClmRu5cY
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qOjtrCxzM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qOjtrCxzM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlxU9qAxDQk
George Zimmerman Trial - Rachel Jeantel doesn't like court
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssog4ZZjRj4
My thoughts:
I'm not even sure I know where to start with today's testimony. Probably the best way to put it is, there was a lot of assumptions with regard to who was on top the day of the shooting. Who had the deeper tone, angry voice and who had the soft-toned high pitched voice.
Assumptions with regards to who was bigger, and using photos that were presented to the media of a young Trayvon in football jersey's and a hoodie to determine that the person that was on the ground being beaten up was Trayvon. Also determining that the soft-toned high pitched voice was Trayvon when the yelling was happening outside in the courtyard.
One witness never, ever saw the recent photo of Trayvon, a still shot from the video when Trayvon was in the 7-11 and the other witness claiming it was Trayvon screaming when she never, ever heard Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman's voice.
At one point one of the witnesses wanted to view the recent photo of Trayvon in 7-11, however the State quickly objected. Now you would think that seeing a recent photo of Trayvon would keep this trial "fair and balanced", however the State prefers leaving in the mind of the court a younger Trayvon.
I'll say this, IF George Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon, then how the hell did George Zimmerman get abrasions to the back of his head and sides of his head?
It appears that there was a punch to George's face, and this may have happened when Trayvon confronted George and then punched him. Even Rachel stated Trayvon ASKED George "why are you following me" with George responding back. IMO, if George confronted Trayvon, it would have been "what are you doing in this neighborhood".
Rachel states that she heard Trayvon say: "get off, get off" and sometimes Trayvon uses a soft baby voice. Well, if George was on top of Trayvon, and Trayvon was shot in the chest with George on top of him, how the hell did Trayvon get on his stomach when he is suppose to be on his back?
The responding cop even stated in court that he turned Trayvon over onto his side. I believe one of the witnesses even indicated that Trayvon was on his stomach after the shot.
There are many words regarding Rachel Jeantel, the girl on the phone with Trayvon. It was very disturbing to me that Jeantel didn't want to tell Trayvon's mother what actually happened. What she did tell Trayvon's mother, she cleaned up what was actually stated and left out so much. Jeantel lied about her age, lied about why she didn't go to the wake, gave a rushed "not interested" type deposition about what happened and most of all, so rude, so very rude with a huge attitude.
It saddens me greatly, because if anyone was going to stand up for her buddy Trayvon, the guy she shared hundreds of texts and perhaps flirty texts and many phone calls, was an embarrassment just to herself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWMzMxxR2L8
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3FClmRu5cY
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qOjtrCxzM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qOjtrCxzM
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 3 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlxU9qAxDQk
George Zimmerman Trial - Rachel Jeantel doesn't like court
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssog4ZZjRj4
My thoughts:
I'm not even sure I know where to start with today's testimony. Probably the best way to put it is, there was a lot of assumptions with regard to who was on top the day of the shooting. Who had the deeper tone, angry voice and who had the soft-toned high pitched voice.
Assumptions with regards to who was bigger, and using photos that were presented to the media of a young Trayvon in football jersey's and a hoodie to determine that the person that was on the ground being beaten up was Trayvon. Also determining that the soft-toned high pitched voice was Trayvon when the yelling was happening outside in the courtyard.
One witness never, ever saw the recent photo of Trayvon, a still shot from the video when Trayvon was in the 7-11 and the other witness claiming it was Trayvon screaming when she never, ever heard Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman's voice.
At one point one of the witnesses wanted to view the recent photo of Trayvon in 7-11, however the State quickly objected. Now you would think that seeing a recent photo of Trayvon would keep this trial "fair and balanced", however the State prefers leaving in the mind of the court a younger Trayvon.
I'll say this, IF George Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon, then how the hell did George Zimmerman get abrasions to the back of his head and sides of his head?
It appears that there was a punch to George's face, and this may have happened when Trayvon confronted George and then punched him. Even Rachel stated Trayvon ASKED George "why are you following me" with George responding back. IMO, if George confronted Trayvon, it would have been "what are you doing in this neighborhood".
Rachel states that she heard Trayvon say: "get off, get off" and sometimes Trayvon uses a soft baby voice. Well, if George was on top of Trayvon, and Trayvon was shot in the chest with George on top of him, how the hell did Trayvon get on his stomach when he is suppose to be on his back?
The responding cop even stated in court that he turned Trayvon over onto his side. I believe one of the witnesses even indicated that Trayvon was on his stomach after the shot.
There are many words regarding Rachel Jeantel, the girl on the phone with Trayvon. It was very disturbing to me that Jeantel didn't want to tell Trayvon's mother what actually happened. What she did tell Trayvon's mother, she cleaned up what was actually stated and left out so much. Jeantel lied about her age, lied about why she didn't go to the wake, gave a rushed "not interested" type deposition about what happened and most of all, so rude, so very rude with a huge attitude.
It saddens me greatly, because if anyone was going to stand up for her buddy Trayvon, the guy she shared hundreds of texts and perhaps flirty texts and many phone calls, was an embarrassment just to herself.
Tuesday, June 25, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHuEOV6z-o
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvHTHNtOAoI
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQv2a7kVsnY
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi4X_Pjn6EQ
Best question of the day came from O'Mara right at the end, "how did you know to answer the State about information that has never been used before ... the movement from left to right.
My thoughts:
I am still waiting for the State to come forth with a "Slam Dunk" with their case. So far, IMO, the State has fallen flat on their face.
Presenting the crime scene photos makes it so real, and sympathy to the Martin family over the loss of their son. However, sympathy has to be removed and just focus on the evidence presented by the State, and when the Defense comes forth to add additional information to the evidence presented to the jurors.
The State will not show bloody photos of George Zimmerman, but will say, no blood on Trayvon hands. However, a bystander took photos of George on the scene that showed blood on George's face. The State won't bring out that it was raining and that maybe the reason there was no drops of blood on the sidewalk from George, or perhaps on Trayvon's hands as Trayvon laid out in the rain for about 15 minutes.
The State's witness, a retired HOH president, mentioned that the 17 year old black male was arrested for the burglaries in the community. He also stated he praised the witnesses that spotted the black male and followed him so he could be arrested.
The State's witness who trained the neighborhood watch members, actually ended up being a a good defense witness, so that was a loss for the State.
The first responding officer on the scene, once it was known that Trayvon was dead, couldn't get Trayvon's cellphone to work. The cellphone was working while Trayvon was on the phone with that girl. So that leaves me to think that the cellphone was in Trayvon's hand when he punched George. I can also try to consider the phone fell to the ground and broke, but I am just not leaning toward it breaking by falling. I have dropped my cellphone so many times and hasn't broken yet.
Bahadoor, the last State witness was a joke. She claims she stated in her depositions and meeting that she mentioned movements going left to right, however, there was not one single work in any of the transcripts stating left or right. Of course, Bahadoor, basically blames the transcript for not putting it in there because she said it!
By the time O'Mara got finished with her, we learn that she liked a Trayvon's Facebook page, she signed the "change.org" petition to prosecute George Zimmerman, she did an interview for a national TV program, and stated she told her sister about the left.right movement in the back yard.
Although, while watching the State asking her questions, you can see Bernie begin to feed Bahadoor the right and left. Bernie states something about being in the kitchen and looking to her right and left and then this is added to the movements in the backyard going from right to left.
If someone is in your backyard, can you tell, which way they are moving without really seeing them? I doubt that the outside wall in her kitchen is that thin, especially since that wall should be a firewall, since it is her kitchen and she is in a condo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHuEOV6z-o
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvHTHNtOAoI
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQv2a7kVsnY
George Zimmerman Trial - June 25, 2013 - Day 2 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi4X_Pjn6EQ
Best question of the day came from O'Mara right at the end, "how did you know to answer the State about information that has never been used before ... the movement from left to right.
My thoughts:
I am still waiting for the State to come forth with a "Slam Dunk" with their case. So far, IMO, the State has fallen flat on their face.
Presenting the crime scene photos makes it so real, and sympathy to the Martin family over the loss of their son. However, sympathy has to be removed and just focus on the evidence presented by the State, and when the Defense comes forth to add additional information to the evidence presented to the jurors.
The State will not show bloody photos of George Zimmerman, but will say, no blood on Trayvon hands. However, a bystander took photos of George on the scene that showed blood on George's face. The State won't bring out that it was raining and that maybe the reason there was no drops of blood on the sidewalk from George, or perhaps on Trayvon's hands as Trayvon laid out in the rain for about 15 minutes.
The State's witness, a retired HOH president, mentioned that the 17 year old black male was arrested for the burglaries in the community. He also stated he praised the witnesses that spotted the black male and followed him so he could be arrested.
The State's witness who trained the neighborhood watch members, actually ended up being a a good defense witness, so that was a loss for the State.
The first responding officer on the scene, once it was known that Trayvon was dead, couldn't get Trayvon's cellphone to work. The cellphone was working while Trayvon was on the phone with that girl. So that leaves me to think that the cellphone was in Trayvon's hand when he punched George. I can also try to consider the phone fell to the ground and broke, but I am just not leaning toward it breaking by falling. I have dropped my cellphone so many times and hasn't broken yet.
Bahadoor, the last State witness was a joke. She claims she stated in her depositions and meeting that she mentioned movements going left to right, however, there was not one single work in any of the transcripts stating left or right. Of course, Bahadoor, basically blames the transcript for not putting it in there because she said it!
By the time O'Mara got finished with her, we learn that she liked a Trayvon's Facebook page, she signed the "change.org" petition to prosecute George Zimmerman, she did an interview for a national TV program, and stated she told her sister about the left.right movement in the back yard.
Although, while watching the State asking her questions, you can see Bernie begin to feed Bahadoor the right and left. Bernie states something about being in the kitchen and looking to her right and left and then this is added to the movements in the backyard going from right to left.
If someone is in your backyard, can you tell, which way they are moving without really seeing them? I doubt that the outside wall in her kitchen is that thin, especially since that wall should be a firewall, since it is her kitchen and she is in a condo.
Monday, June 24, 2013
George Zimmerman Trial - June 24, 2013 Day 1
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 1 (Opening Statements)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgtFBN8uKs
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 2 (Opening Statements)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktQ9mgjH-9w
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvq6E2Re0Tw
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Witness Sequestration Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1wLf5C_5f4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0s9IyN5rI
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLmUXSTECRI
Adding cellphone timelines for reference:
Girl and Trayvon Martin:
6:54:16 - 7:11:47
Another call between Girl and Trayvon Martin
7:12:06 - 7:15:43 PM
George Zimmerman Call to Non Emergency Dispatcher:
7:09:34 - 7:13:40 (call ends)
Witness call to 911 reporting screams for help
7:16:11 PM
My thoughts:
Listening to the State's opening statement starting out very stern with "fucking punks" and "these assholes always gets away" was the best that they had in this case. Words are words, and many people have used these words in some form or another in their lifetime.
The State, although not speaking the words "racial profiling" or "racists", this is the route that they want to go. How do you describe a suspicious person to the police if you don't give them the color of their skin. Some would be white, some would be black, or Asian, perhaps Hispanic. Although Hispanic may look black depending on their skin color, so that one would be hard to describe to the police.
Heck, we have one juror seated where the media is not clear of her race, so they classify her as black or Hispanic.
Now to the Defense, I was appauled with the way Don West started his opening statement with a "knock, knock" joke. This was so ridiculous and was so not needed in his opening statement. George Zimmerman is on trial for second degree murder and you start out with a "knock, knock" joke?
Although West apologized to the jurors after the lunch break, it was really a "half-ass" apology since West felt it was the delivery of the joke to the jurors. NO, Don West, it wasn't the delivery, it was a stupid move on your part.
Don West had lots of good information and facts on the case, but he was so confusing with his delivery. As an "in-home" juror, not tainted by the outside crap of this case, West was confusing me and he was hard to follow.
I realized that West's strong point is not in "show and tell." I was surprised with the cellphone timelines and didn't realize how close the different calls started and ended.
I am beginning to feel, based on the cellphone timeline, that Trayvon was still on the phone with this girl when he approached George Zimmerman asking George and paraphrasing "why are you following me." Because George could not see Trayvon any longer when he ended the call with police, it is very possible that Trayvon came out to confront George.
The one thing that I have learned in my lifetime, we are a "hell of a lot braver" when we have someone with us, then we are standing alone. Although Trayvon didn't have someone at his side, he had this girl on the other end of the phone.
There is a 19 second difference from when the call between Trayvon and this girl ended and then another call was placed. Right at the time that George Zimmerman is telling the dispatcher "these assholes get away" George can no longer see Trayvon and Trayvon's call ends with the girl.
Was Trayvon "ducking and hiding" causing the phone call to end by his movement? IMO, that call between the girl and Trayvon ended abruptly, because the girl called him back 19 seconds later.
I have a feeling that when Trayvon confronted George, of which, I believe Trayvon did confront George, based on what I heard yesterday and subject to change as trial goes on, I feel Trayvon punched George in the face while still holding his cellphone.
At the time of the punch, and the cellphone call ended, and the cellphone not working when the police arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting, I feel Trayvon punched George with the cellphone.
What I did hear from O'Mara when he was questioning the dispatcher, was the sound that was heard when George got out of his truck. I thought the sound was because George was following Trayvon at a fast pace, but then O'Mara was talking about the wind coming thru the cellphone.
That makes sense now because if you are up against a building, you are block from the wind to some extent, however if you are in a breezeway of some sort, you could hear the wind passing through the cellphone.
Of course, what I write is my opinion and how I am seeing things at this moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgtFBN8uKs
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 2 (Opening Statements)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktQ9mgjH-9w
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvq6E2Re0Tw
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Witness Sequestration Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1wLf5C_5f4
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0s9IyN5rI
George Zimmerman Trial - Day 1 - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLmUXSTECRI
Adding cellphone timelines for reference:
Girl and Trayvon Martin:
6:54:16 - 7:11:47
Another call between Girl and Trayvon Martin
7:12:06 - 7:15:43 PM
George Zimmerman Call to Non Emergency Dispatcher:
7:09:34 - 7:13:40 (call ends)
Witness call to 911 reporting screams for help
7:16:11 PM
My thoughts:
Listening to the State's opening statement starting out very stern with "fucking punks" and "these assholes always gets away" was the best that they had in this case. Words are words, and many people have used these words in some form or another in their lifetime.
The State, although not speaking the words "racial profiling" or "racists", this is the route that they want to go. How do you describe a suspicious person to the police if you don't give them the color of their skin. Some would be white, some would be black, or Asian, perhaps Hispanic. Although Hispanic may look black depending on their skin color, so that one would be hard to describe to the police.
Heck, we have one juror seated where the media is not clear of her race, so they classify her as black or Hispanic.
Now to the Defense, I was appauled with the way Don West started his opening statement with a "knock, knock" joke. This was so ridiculous and was so not needed in his opening statement. George Zimmerman is on trial for second degree murder and you start out with a "knock, knock" joke?
Although West apologized to the jurors after the lunch break, it was really a "half-ass" apology since West felt it was the delivery of the joke to the jurors. NO, Don West, it wasn't the delivery, it was a stupid move on your part.
Don West had lots of good information and facts on the case, but he was so confusing with his delivery. As an "in-home" juror, not tainted by the outside crap of this case, West was confusing me and he was hard to follow.
I realized that West's strong point is not in "show and tell." I was surprised with the cellphone timelines and didn't realize how close the different calls started and ended.
I am beginning to feel, based on the cellphone timeline, that Trayvon was still on the phone with this girl when he approached George Zimmerman asking George and paraphrasing "why are you following me." Because George could not see Trayvon any longer when he ended the call with police, it is very possible that Trayvon came out to confront George.
The one thing that I have learned in my lifetime, we are a "hell of a lot braver" when we have someone with us, then we are standing alone. Although Trayvon didn't have someone at his side, he had this girl on the other end of the phone.
There is a 19 second difference from when the call between Trayvon and this girl ended and then another call was placed. Right at the time that George Zimmerman is telling the dispatcher "these assholes get away" George can no longer see Trayvon and Trayvon's call ends with the girl.
Was Trayvon "ducking and hiding" causing the phone call to end by his movement? IMO, that call between the girl and Trayvon ended abruptly, because the girl called him back 19 seconds later.
I have a feeling that when Trayvon confronted George, of which, I believe Trayvon did confront George, based on what I heard yesterday and subject to change as trial goes on, I feel Trayvon punched George in the face while still holding his cellphone.
At the time of the punch, and the cellphone call ended, and the cellphone not working when the police arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting, I feel Trayvon punched George with the cellphone.
What I did hear from O'Mara when he was questioning the dispatcher, was the sound that was heard when George got out of his truck. I thought the sound was because George was following Trayvon at a fast pace, but then O'Mara was talking about the wind coming thru the cellphone.
That makes sense now because if you are up against a building, you are block from the wind to some extent, however if you are in a breezeway of some sort, you could hear the wind passing through the cellphone.
Of course, what I write is my opinion and how I am seeing things at this moment.
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